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low skilled warrior
Member since: Sep 2004
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![]() Enemydown are very pleased to announce The April Open Bonanza. The competition will run from April 1st to April 30th 2010 and will reward clans for their activity and ultimately their ability to top the CSS Open ladder. Enemydown has teamed up with our friends at Roccat to provide you with the chance to win one of three sets of prizes for your team. All you have to do is play matches on the open ladders during the month of April to be in with a chance to win. Only teams who are in the open ladder as of the 31st of march 2010 qualify for this event. Our first prize will go to the team who tops the ladder at precisely 23:59 on April 30th 2010 and 5 lucky clan members will win a ROCCAT Arvo keyboard each! For those who aren’t perhaps ready to top the ladder, you still have a great chance to win with 5 ROCCAT Kova miceup for grabs to the team who plays the most games in a open ladder (not overall activity) during April and best of all, it doesn’t matter what game you play as long as you are playing in an open ladder, it is open to all! Finally, for those who are neither the most active or most successful, we have given you a chance to win too. All you have to do is have your team inside the top 20 on the Open CSS ladder at 23:59 on April 30th 2010 to be in with a chance to win a the excellent ROCCAT Apuri (5 per team). The winner will be drawn at random from the top 20 finishers. We will also be providing weekly updates on the progress of the ladders and some featured matches and teams to keep it interesting throughout the month. Points for the Open Ladder will be reset on the 1st April, to give all clans the same fair starting point. A copy of the old points for all open ladder clans has been made and any clan wishing to have their points reinstated after this event finishes are welcome to have them put back. This is the first of many future hardware and cash prize tournaments that we will be running on Enemydown over the coming year, but most of all it is a small token of our appreciation to those who have stuck with ED over the last few transitional months. This is just the first in a line of announcements and plans we have to help Enemydown over the coming few months, so stay tuned for more announcements very soon. To qualify, all you need to do is play at least 5 matches in the ladders during April, so what are you waiting for! The only thing left to say is good luck to every clan involved! The Enemydown Admin Team The Prizes:
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CSS Admin
Member since: Dec 2004
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Looks good, congrats guys
![]() Don't take this the wrong way, I'm pleased to see some sponsors back at ED, but I don't think re-instating the points of some teams is going to work after the event is complete. The reason I say that is because the ladder has jumped up +1,000 points on a few occasions down to, what I believe, is a bug where a team would have gone into minus figures? Not sure, maybe someone else can clarify exactly why it happens. Anyway, take the mighty GLG as an example. If the points get reset, they're going to be around the 1,000 mark aren't they? If you then give them their points back as it stands, they'll be at 5k+ and miles ahead of those that don't want their points put back. As I said, congrats on the event and hope it all goes smoothly ![]() |
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Member since: Dec 2004
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Best option would be to either put every team's points back to what they were pre-reset or to leave the points as they are at the end of the competition. Personally I'd be in favour of the latter as it would have happened anyway if ED.eu hadn't have been a fail at the time of the move. |
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Ladies Man ;)
Member since: May 2006
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Mark all that will happen is every team will want their points put back.. if say Rasta top'd this month's comp with 1000 points then they'd still ask to have their points put back to what they were.
GLG & GSG will definately want their points put back. It's a great competition and we'd love to be a part of it but with EPS and other things going on I don't think we will be able to compete with other teams for activity. Do think you need to seriously look at having a knockout comp between the top 4 at the end otherwise come the last few days you'll get nothing but arguements from people dodging games defaulting etc etc. ps... please don't reset the points fully after... TwistedPlay teams have put in a lot of time and effort to get themselves to the top of the Uk #1 Ladder System and we believe it to be very beneficial when showing us off to possible sponsors. It would be heavily upsetting if you then just "wiped the slate clean" because it may be boring for some seeing us top of the ed ladder. If you don't want us here just say... all we ever did was love ed :_( |
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CSS Admin
Member since: Dec 2004
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If every team wants their points back then they should all get them back, what I don't think should happen is it be a case of only the teams who ask.
So it needs to be all or none really, otherwise the ladder is going to be left in limbo. But like you say, it's a great competition so good luck to all ![]() |
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Ladies Man ;)
Member since: May 2006
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That way it should work better |
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<3 Geordies
Member since: Aug 2005
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don't mind either way. the good teams will be able to get to the top if they want to.
you are such a ladder whore tony , i understand where you're coming from though it has obviously been hard work to get there but its not like you couldn't do it again!! maybe you would just have to add a couple more members to the roster. |
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Senior Admin
Member since: Sep 2004
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The decision to reset the ladder was not taken lighty, a lot of discussion went into it and we explored every other avenue we could think of before we settled on doing it. I believe the reset was the fairest way for this ladder event to run, every clan starts equal, favour is shown to none.
The points put back option was a compromise, I knew some clans would not be happy about us resetting. Ideally I would have loved to poll all clans in the ladder but time was a commodity I didn't have. Adding the previous points back to every clan at the end of this is a job I would much rather not have to do, it's not pushing a button like the reset was it's a lot of work. I would like to think of this as a fresh start for everybody clans and admins alike. |
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<3 Geordies
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low skilled warrior
Member since: Sep 2004
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pretty much weapey, tis the community choice.
Just as a side note, the activity award is only the open ladders of any gametype for the most active award, not 2v2s Last edited by Snuffle; Thu 1st Apr at 12:39. |
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BRB Shank!!
Member since: Sep 2005
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I'd love to see an event like this each month, with a brand new reset each time. Or maybe for the future it would be easier to just have an open ladder and an 'event' ladder that could be opened + closed at will, and the points reset each time.
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CSS Admin
Member since: Dec 2004
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I liked the idea that 1.6 had, I think they had a 2 monthly reset. If you incorporated that with an event for the top 16 or 32 teams at the end of each period it would be cracking.
Would teams want regular resets though? |
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I can understand Gom8z's point about the hard work that TP has done to get up there, but no one can reach them whatsoever and this is potentially "deflating" opponents, as GLG wont be budged for quite a while, as you only gain 1 point a match once you reach inside Top 10, so you would have to play near enough about 2 - 3 officials a night (over a 30 day period) to budge GLG, just for GLG to take top spot in a day again. It is demoralising for any other team. I know you love ED, and are supporting it, but you need to take the view of everyone else here. If you need to show to sponsors, just give them various archived links for over the last year, its just not fair to the rest of the scene, when other teams are putting in as much effort into the ladder, and not getting anything off it, it one of the reasons, my lads cannot seem to get motivated because the ED ladder is just "stagnated", they even said "whats the point of playing in the ladder competition, just for GLG to recieve their points at the end and remain as Number 1, kinda defeats the point of this competition", that they put in all this effort in the last 3 - 4 months, reached a certain point in the ladder, and couldnt progress to the top because you are so far in front of everyone else which makes it 4x maybe even more times harder for any team to accumulate points to catch up with you. I would much prefer the 2 monthly reset of the ladder, because it gives other teams a chance to claim some glory, and may spice up the ladder a bit because its just stagnated, no one moves unless teams go inactive... and/or compromise at a 6 monthly reset. I love you Gom8z, but you have held Number 1 spot for over a year now yes? Its a little frustrating really, and it would be a nice change to see someone else up there. Last edited by -|MODx|- Gumpster*; Thu 1st Apr at 23:52. |
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Member since: Sep 2003
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Just a thought, but if you can't commit to playing ED ladder matches on a regular basis, do GLG really need to cling on to that top spot on top of the ladder?
GLG are playing their part in ESL and ESEA (?), so to echo Gumpsters sentiments - who will gain more for the top spot? GLG, or the next team aiming to use it as a stepping stone for the next stage in their development? I really having nothing to knock you guys, but there's 170~ teams in the ladder. Gomez has previously stated himself that it isn't so difficult to break the top 10 if you have the ability to do so. If your commitments lie elsewhere in more meaningful (to GLG) competitions - then why is it a problem for another team to show renewed commitment to ED? |
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Member since: Oct 2005
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Tbh ED's activity is way down, sometimes it's even difficult to get games at 8 & 9pm on a Sunday.
Anything that's done has to be in the interests of the community, not one team at the top which the admins bend over backwards for. I think resetting everyones points will clear the slate and give more teams an incentive to play, increasing activity, might bring a bit of life back into ED and CSS. |
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Member since: Jul 2008
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yes yes yes !!! VOTE RESET! an Annual reset would be spot on tbh. every April from now on
nearly like the tax year haha. and tbh if u love ED that much just Play some games and claim back ur top spot like men and stop crying like girls, sorry if u think this is a flame, its not, its just my honest opinion. We all love ED thats why we play here. imo all this if u want u can have ur points back bullcrap is pointless. its one or the other if u ask me and atm the ladder is crap the reset has done it good. thanks for reading my emo post hahaha ![]() |
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Member since: Dec 2008
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Why not have kind of 2 ladders linked to each other.. 1 thats getting reset every month or 2 or w/e, and 1 thats just going on forever.. If you win/loose a match you get/loose the points in both ladders, that way the people who have worked hard for a topspot on the old ladder will still be up there and able to show off for the sponsors, and there will be a place for the rest to fight for a topspot for the month or 2.. So there is an "overall" ladder for all matches in the past + the future, and one thats getting reset once in a while.
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Why not put an award up on all Clan Pages from the old ladder stating where they were in the ladder, and how many points they had. That way its archiving the historic ladder pts & positions, so that all teams can look back on where they were in the ladder (alot of work I know) but it could satisfy everyone, and give something like TP's "potential" sponsors a good look at. |
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Ladies Man ;)
Member since: May 2006
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Btw if Enemydown really think resetting the points is truly what's best for the activity of the source ladder.
We will not argue it one bit. I remember watching Michael Schumacher bore the life out of formula one and I don't want everyone slowly starting to dislike us, so yer we will happily retire and make way for someone else to come through if thats the case. We had a good run of being number 1 and maybe it's better to go out at the top ![]() |
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In other words, at the end of the bonanza, a vote will go up and a decision will be made based on that. |
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Im not being funny it would be sad for both of you to go, but Gom8z you have to realise, for anyone to over take you in the current ED ladder, it is next to near impossible. Top 10 dont wanna risk losing points between each other, and gaining a point a game is ridicolous. The ladder is faulty at the top (although I understand the reasons why - to prevent n00b bashing) but just because some of us voice our concerns that simply giving you back the points, scrubs the idea of this whole competition is a reason for GLG or TP to leave is silly. I personally would like to see some activity restored, and as mentioned maybe a 6 monthly reset with a BIG competition at the end like this one, would be the best way to go about it. Again its down to the general ED community (are others actually active?) |
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Ladies Man ;)
Member since: May 2006
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I just meant GLG Gump it wasn't meant as some big threat or anything.. still love ed. I just see your point that maybe GLG being there has taken the fun out of it.
The whole point of our points gap was fortunate and also down to heavy ed whoring back when we weren't as busy with prize money games. I have tried to take all my teams down this route before moving them on (ie start in ed and then progress). With GLG it did come to a point where we could only manage 3 or 4 games a month so i guess we were stiffling it even if we would play anyone. My point of saying we'd leave is because I know we can't ever commit the time we once were able to so i don't wanna see GLG 14th or 15th because we never have the time to go for it.. Like I said I'm honestly all for this if its what people want ![]() and humming...just no fella. |
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